[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamental psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

[Joseph Ransdell]

But I would disagree with this part of what you say, Jim.  Considered simply as methods in their own rights, I don't think one wants to speak of them as being incorporated AS methods within the fourth method.  As a methodic approach to answering questions the method of tenacity is surely just a kind of stupidity, and it seems to me that the turn to authority, not qualified by any further considerations -- such as, say, doing so because there is some reason to think that the authority is actually in a better position to know than one is -- apart, I say, from that sort of qualification, the turn to authority as one's method seems little more intelligent than the method of tenacity, regarded in a simplistic way.  The  third method, supposing that it is understood as the acceptance of something because it ties in with -- coheres with -- a system of ideas already accepted, does seem more intelligent because it is based on the properties of ideas, which is surely more sophisticated than acceptance which is oblivious of considerations of coherence.   But it is also the method of the paranoid, who might reasonably be said to be unintelligent to a dangerous degree at times.   But I think that what you say in your other message doesn't commit you to regarding the methods themselves as "building blocks", which is a mistaken metaphor here.  It is rather that what each of them respectively appeals to is indeed something to which the fourth method appeals: the value of self-identity, the value of identification (suitably qualified) with others. the value of recognition of a universe -- all of which are redeemed as valuable in the fourth method by the addition of the appeal to the force majeure of the real given the right sort of conditions, i.e. objectiviy.

Joe

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From: Jim Piat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [peirce-l] Re: What "fundamental psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

Dear Folks,

 

Part of what I'm trying to say is that its not as though the scientific method were an entirely independent alternative to the other three methods.  On the contrary the scientific method is built upon and incorporates the other three methods.  The lst three are not discredited methods they are the building blocks of the scienfic method.  What gives sciences its power is that in combining the three methods (plus the emphasis upon observation -- which can or can not be part of the method of tenacity) it gives a more reliable basis for belief than any of the other three methods alone.

 

But as for one and two  -- yes I'd say they are the basis of the whole structure.  Tenacity and authority can both include reason and observation.  So if we include reason and observation in the lst two then we have all the elements of the scientific method. 

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