Dan,
All your posts from that previous address would end up in my spam trap
(as often happens, no idea why} and I'd have to go there to rescue them
but this address appears to be working okay.
Regards,
Jon
On 3/9/2021 7:09 AM, Everett, Daniel wrote:> There seems to be some doubt as to whether this message of mine actually
made it through. If it did, apologies for resending it here from a new email address.
>
> Dan Everett
>
> On Mar 8, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Daniel L. Everett
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> On the role of triadic categories in Peirce’s philosophy and hierarchy, you might (if you haven’t already) want to
check out some of the commentaries on Aristotle by the Conimbricenses, the Portuguese Jesuits of the 16th century
(followed decades later by the important work of another Portuguese, Joao Poinsot). So far as I know it was here in
their work (which Peirce knew well) that the first well developed triadic basis of semiotics is explicitly mentioned
(there is an excellent translation of some of this work by John Doyle, which I am sure most of this list will be familar
with).
>
> In the 20th century, Kenneth Pike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Lee_Pike) developed a pre-Chomskyan theory
of linguistics, Tagmemics (https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783111657158/html), that also had a
foundational triadic structure. In PIke’s work hierarchy was also crucial and he developed theories of various
linguistic hierarchies (the basic three were referential, phonological, grammatical). Pike’s work predates Simon’s
considerably.
>
>
> In his own work, mathematician-theologian Vern Poythress (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vern_Poythress) argued that
the basis of the triadic organization of Tagmemics and elsewhere was the trinity
(https://www.amazon.com/Knowing-Trinity-Perspectives-Knowledge-Imitate/dp/1629953199/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=trinity+by+vern+poythress&qid=1615232590&sr=8-3)
Poythress is a serious mathematician as well as a theologian and a solid linguist.
>
> I am inclined to believe that the doctrine of trinity was important in the thinking of the Portuguese Jesuits and
also for Peirce (though I currently have no textual support to make a serious claim wrt the latter suggestion).
>
> Simon did win the Nobel Prize in Economics, but when I knew him at CMU (in conjunction with my role on the
computational linguistics faculty of the Pitt-CMU program going at that time), he defined his long-term research program
as human problem-solving, leading to computer science, psychology, and other fields, beyond economics. His work on the
hierarchy can also be related to (though it is rarely, if ever, credited) the conception of all linguistics structure as
endocentric and recursive that Chomsky has urged (and which I have long argued against).
>
> In any case, I highly recommend the Jesuit Aristotelian commentaries and the work of Poinsot (Deely has recently
published a beautiful version of his Tractatus).
>
> Dan
>
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