On Fri, 13 Jan 1995 08:33:04 -0800 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Evan Jones writes: >> ... The character, fate of GM, IBM >> or any other real-life business entity, big or small, is of >> absolutely no consequence to neoclassical economics. This herculean >> detachment is what gives NC economics its elegance and its longevity. > >It strikes me that one could say the same thing about Marxian >economics. Its criticism of capitalism stands independently of the >rise or fall of any particular "real-life entity".... To my mind, Marx starts with this high level of abstraction and then works down (or up, depending on one's view) to the level of particular "real life entities." First, he tried to understand the abstractions of "wage-labor in general" and "capital in general." Then (in volume II) he starts dealing with the particularities -- which are understood _in the context of_ the abstract framework of vol. I. This continues in vol. III, which is even more down-to-earth and dealing with real-life entities (e.g., financial markets). He never finished that, but it seems to me the next step would be dealing with specific entities, again in the context of what had been understood before. More concretely, Marx starts with the general tendencies of capitalism. Marxists have followed this by talking about historically-specific eras ("stages") of capitalist develop- ment, which can best be understood in terms of the general tendencies. Then the specific firms can be understood: for example (and this is an example rather than something I believe in fully), the fall of IBM might be understood in terms of the transition from "fordism" to "post-fordism." Of course, a complete understanding would bring in the details of IBM's specific history (its founder, its strategies, etc.) Gil is right that both neoclassical economics and Marxian economics start at a very abstract level as opposed to some other kinds of economics (some institutionalism?) that starts with inductive logic, generalizing from specific cases, at least at the level of mode of presentation. One difference is that Marxian economics sees a dialectic between deduction and induction. "Abstract capital" for Marx is a representation of the perceived shared characteristic of empirical, particular, capitals. See his methodological introduction in the GRUNDRISSE. in pen-l solidarity, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Econ. Dept., Loyola Marymount Univ., Los Angeles, CA 90045-2699 USA 310/338-2948 (daytime, during workweek); FAX: 310/338-1950 "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- K. Marx, paraphrasing Dante.