Jim Devine wrote:

(responding to my statement: --

> >>Result:  the very basis on which the system was "held together" between 1945
> and,say, 1989 is now GONE.  The sluggishness of the recovery and the need to
> maintain unemployment so much higher than in the past and the persistence of
> the INCREASE in inequality (not just the persistence of inequality) all are
> part of the long run process.<<
> 
> I agreed with almost everything in Mike's post.  But we have to face
> the fact that unemployment is currently lower than in the past (though
> it's rising), at least in the US.  Of course, the validity of my
> statement depends on which "past" we're comparing the present to.
> But both official U and U augmented by the number of discouraged
> workers and involuntary part-timers seem to be lower now than during
> much of the 1980s and early 1990s. 

I would argue that the alleged "success" of the 1980s (pre 1988) of the US
economy was precisely because for five full years of "recovery" the
unemployment rate remained above 6% (and in fact didn't reach 7% till 1987). 
Then, we had two "good years" of 5.3% unemployment before the recession came
in 1990.  Faced with the danger of unemployment getting down to 5.3% again
(it reached 5.4% in december 1994) --- the FED began to abort the recovery
(interesting parallel to a similar tightening of monetary policy in 1984! --
see GReider for details) --- In other words, today it appears that the
"system managers" are not willing to chance a couple of years like 1988 and
1989 where unemployment was "allowed" to remain so "dangerously low."

I am trying to argue that the 1980s represented a relatively unsuccessful
recovery (by capitalists' own standards and recent historical parallels) ---

If we use absolute levels of unemployment as the standard, then the post
1991 recovery looks "better" than the post 1982 recovery --- but remember,
the unemployment rate of 9.7% in 1982 and only 6.7% in 1991.  The
unemployment rate FELL steadily (if slowly) from 1983 to 1990 while it
actually increased through 1992 (peaking at 7.7% in June) before beginning
its slow fall (which didn't reach 5.4% until Dec 1994).

Recently, when sketching the
> Phillips curve for my students, I discovered that at least for the
> last few years, the "unemployment-inflation trade-off" has improved
> (meaning less stagflation), using the official unemployment rate.
> 
> Now I am not trying to praise Clinton or Greenspan or claim that
> we're having a "soft landing."  Au contraire. I think what's
> happening is that the same amount of (official) unemployment
> has a larger impact on worker bargaining power than it did
> in the 1970s.  Unemployment insurance benefits are down,
> as is trade-union strength. Etc.  So 5.8% unemployment now
> looks as bad as (say) 7% fifteen years ago.

Has the Sam Bowles/Julie Schor time series of the "cost of losing your job"
been updated through the present.  That's a useful index, IMHO, for what Jim
seems to be concluding...  
> 
> It's my hypothesis that something similar happened during
> the late 1920s.  Now there's a cheering parallel.
> 
Agreed
-- 
Mike Meeropol
Economics Department
Cultures Past and Present Program
Western New England College
Springfield, Massachusetts
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