True, not all, but, in my experience, most. In fact, even on those rare occasions where marriage is a truly equitable arrangement, the society at large constrains the woman by expecting certain behavior of her in marriage. Sooo, there is the marital relationship between the two individuals, and then there is the role of the man and woman in marriage as defined by the society. So, generally, even in an equitable relationship, a woman can be severely constrained by marriage. Of course, one can always find the occasional exception. Put another way, I don't think it is necessarily always individual men who constrain women in marriage, but marriage as structured by the society at large. maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 96-11-24 21:19:30 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Henwood) writes: > .. But not *all* married women have their freedom constrained, at least in my personal >experience. > >Doug > >-- > >Doug Henwood >Left Business Observer >250 W 85 St >New York NY 10024-3217 >USA >+1-212-874-4020 voice >+1-212-874-3137 fax >email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >web: <http://www.panix.com/~dhenwood/LBO_home.html> > > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Received: from anthrax.ecst.csuchico.edu (anthrax.ecst.csuchico.edu >VAA05425; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:19:02 -0500 >Received: from anthrax (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anthrax.ecst.csuchico.edu >Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:17:54 -0800 (PST) >Message-Id: <v01540b01aebeaef9d8d3@[166.84.250.86]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Originator: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Precedence: bulk >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Henwood) >Subject: [PEN-L:7554] Re: Fwd: Re: Technology Shock and Teen Pregnancy >X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas >X-Comment: Progressive Economics >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Mime-Version: 1.0 --------------------- Forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Henwood) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 96-11-24 21:19:30 EST At 5:54 PM 11/24/96, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Doug is correct, a large part of the increase in 'unwed' births are due to >the decreased fertility of married women. That was my understanding, but it contradicts what the Urban Institute fellow says. Anyone have some real numbers (to descend into vulgar empiricism - and I'm sure Jerry Levy will support me in asking this)? >4. Wed lock is not a weird word. it is a word used to describe the role of >women in married -- a lock on personal freedom. Well, of course that's why I described it as a weird word. But not *all* married women have their freedom constrained, at least in my personal experience. Doug -- Doug Henwood Left Business Observer 250 W 85 St New York NY 10024-3217 USA +1-212-874-4020 voice +1-212-874-3137 fax email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> web: <http://www.panix.com/~dhenwood/LBO_home.html>