>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/18/00 10:15PM >>>
In a message dated 5/18/00 9:19:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Interesting musings Carrol, but words have meanings, and what most people 
mean by
 the word socialism is not what was seen in the USSR. You can call it what 
you want,
 but I don't call it socialism. >>


Actually, isn't it a big part of our problem that what _most people_ DO mean 
by "socialism" what they had in the USSR? --jks

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CB: This is a problem for you because of your utopianism. Marx predicted that the 
Paris Commune would be a folly of dispair, but also knew that it was the beginning of 
actual socialism, with all its faults, and advanced his theory of socialism based on 
it.  Similarly , the USSR to the 20th power.


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