Greetings,

On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Dave Markland wrote:

> >Shawgi wrote: 
> >> >     The other major problem caused by the basic internal
> >> >contradiction is that private ownership of the means of
> >> >production determines that the motive behind production is the
> >> >creation of maximum capitalist profit. 
> >> 
> >> (snip)
> >> 
> >> > As long as there is class society, as 
> >> >long as there is private ownership of the means of production there
> cannot be
> >> >efficient use of the productive forces. 
> >> 
> >> The lesson of Yugoslavia shows us the problem with such statements (as well
> >> as the myopia of "Market Socialism").  They eliminated private ownership but
> >> kept the market, resulting in the inefficiencies of that social construct.
> >> further, the market deepened class divisions in society.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> dave
> >> 
> 
> Shawgi wrote:
> >     Dave, I don't understand your observation here. 
> 
> I was pointing to the dubiousness of an assertion like "as long as there is
> private ownership of the means of production there cannot be efficient use
> of the productive forces".  In a system of Market Socialism (which I know
> you did not mention, but it helps illustrate my point), there is no private
> ownership but we don't see "efficient use of productive forces".  Thus,
> eliminating private ownership is at best a necessary, but not sufficient
> cause of efficient use of productive forces.
> 
> Sorry for the confusion- i was trying to keep it short.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
        Ok, Dave.  Thanks for the clarification.

Shawgi Tell
Graduate School of Education
University at Buffalo
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