>Shawgi wrote: 
>> >     The other major problem caused by the basic internal
>> >contradiction is that private ownership of the means of
>> >production determines that the motive behind production is the
>> >creation of maximum capitalist profit. 
>> 
>> (snip)
>> 
>> > As long as there is class society, as 
>> >long as there is private ownership of the means of production there
cannot be
>> >efficient use of the productive forces. 
>> 
>> The lesson of Yugoslavia shows us the problem with such statements (as well
>> as the myopia of "Market Socialism").  They eliminated private ownership but
>> kept the market, resulting in the inefficiencies of that social construct.
>> further, the market deepened class divisions in society.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> dave
>> 

Shawgi wrote:
>       Dave, I don't understand your observation here. 

I was pointing to the dubiousness of an assertion like "as long as there is
private ownership of the means of production there cannot be efficient use
of the productive forces".  In a system of Market Socialism (which I know
you did not mention, but it helps illustrate my point), there is no private
ownership but we don't see "efficient use of productive forces".  Thus,
eliminating private ownership is at best a necessary, but not sufficient
cause of efficient use of productive forces.

Sorry for the confusion- i was trying to keep it short.

Regards,
Dave



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