>While I've not read "Looking Forward" I have participated in ZNet & can say
>that Hahnel & Albert's anti-Marxism is more anti-Leninism. Trotsky's warm
>remarks regarding increasing management power quoted by Louis are precisely
>the kind of centralized control rejected in participatory economics.
Perhaps
>Louis read about balanced job complexes and suddenly saw a future where he
>might have to help sweep the shop & scrub the john.
There is no difference between Marx and Lenin. Marx never wrote blueprints
for the future. Neither did Lenin. They were preoccupied about how to built
powerful socialist movements. The problem with Parecon is not that it is
"wrong" but irrelevant. The conditions facing revolutionary societies are
similar to a room in the hospital where a woman is giving birth during an
electrical blackout, not a graduate seminar or a chat room on Z Talk.
>It should be pointed out that Tariq Ali has recently opened a forum on
ZNet.
>This would seem to indicate that Albert's position is a bit more complex
than
>reflexive anti-Marxism.
I'd say that this is the perfect place for Tariq Ali nowadays.
>
>Regarding utopianism, I thought regaining some semblance of vision was all
>the rage on the Left these days. I realize there remains a great deal of
>self-consciousness regarding these speculations. Immanuel Wallerstein
>actually invented a new word, "Utopistics," to provide cover for such
>indulgences.
>
>cheers,
>
>joe
The rage on the left? Just what I needed to hear. I am the Lucifer of the
kingdom of recalcitrant millenarian Marxists who want to hurl lightning
bolts at all of the trendy intellectuals trying to "fix" Marx. That fits in
with my moldy fig tastes in music. Bing Crosby rules.
Louis Proyect
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