>Carrol Cox wrote:
>
>>You have a really fine political mind -- but you are almost
>>deliberately trashing it. Anyone who takes you and Mark
>>really seriously can only conclude that further political
>>theorizing or organizing is pointless. The world is over.
>>Forget it. Let's go to the movies.
>
>That's not fair. As far as I can tell, Lou thinks that we need a 
>socialist revolution; I'm not sure what Mark thinks these days. What 
>I'm not clear on is what exactly this socialist revolution would 
>mean for industrial and agricultural practice, energy sources, the 
>transformation of the built environment, living arrangements, etc.
>
>Doug

Let's suppose an unlikely event: the Japanese working class rise up & 
make a socialist revolution (of some kind).  What would it mean to 
energy sources, agricultural practice, built environment, etc.? 
Well, Japan got no domestic energy source to speak of, and it has 
become accustomed to importing much of its food (except maybe rice & 
some fresh vegetables & a little fish).  The rest of the imperial 
world, condemning the expropriation of Japanese & other 
expropriators, swiftly puts an embargo on Japan to restore freedom 
and democracy.  Cities darken and industries begin to collapse due to 
severe rationing of oil, electricity, etc.; busses & trains, alas, do 
not run on time any longer, and bikes are no substitutes; Cubans 
sympathize but can't help the Japanese much -- they got little oil 
themselves -- so they send cigars instead.  The socialist government 
of Japan tries to form an alliance with Iraq to get oil, and then 
leftists in America collectively denounce the Japanese government for 
not denouncing the absence of freedom & democracy in Iraq.  Russia, 
Venezuela, and sundry other governments try to circumvent the 
embargo, but their oil gets confiscated by the U.S. Navy, and they 
give up.  In desperation, the socialist government of Japan tries to 
move urban children off to the countryside (as the Japanese did 
during the World War II) to prevent starvation and to resuscitate 
dead agricultural villages of yore.  American leftists once again 
collectively denounce Japanese socialists for taking a page from Pol 
Pot.  The Japanese populace become discontent too, and many 
intellectuals emigrate to America, Canada, and elsewhere, creating a 
shortage of experts in Japan; and encouraged by the CIA, etc. some of 
the Japanese will organize armed insurrections.  The USA will then 
aid freedom fighters with military experts, weapons, food, and other 
necessities.  The civil war rages on -- sooner or later, American 
troops (already conveniently stationed in Japan, South Korea, etc.) 
must openly join the war (with or without a Congressional vote), and 
much of the country gets laid to waste.  Socialism will collapse in a 
few years, or else, in an even more unlikely event of the Japanese 
victory, the battered socialist government will have to build 
everything back up from scratch amidst ruins, _who knows how_.

And this if America doesn't bomb Red Japan back to the Stone Age from 
the get-go.

Yoshie

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