If Serb forces in Kosovo use ethnic Albanians as human shields and park tanks by historic sites etc. what does NATO do? Cleanse Kosovo of both Serbs and their history, and the remaining Albanians? After all this bombing in the name of stopping atrocities, there is absolutely nothing that has been done to stop or prevent any atrocities. If and when the bombing stops, it is clear that the cleansing and any atrocities found have already been committed since high tech bombing did zilch to stop them. The moral argument that has force here is not that we must intervene because horrible things are happening but that we have an obligation not to make a bad situation worse. I have yet to see any coherent counter argument to the moral claim that the bombing is not justified because it has made a bad situation worse. What I keep hearing is more reports of atrocities. We couldn't just stand by and let this happen. We must prevent and stop these atrocities. We must hold Milosevic reponsible for these war crimes, blah , blah. All wholly irrelevant, and clear refusals to even address the argument I just presented. Indeed, even if only some of the reports are true they show not the policy works but that it doesn't work. Of course Nathan is not here to remind us that the bombing may have actually replaced genocide with ethnic cleansing. I was hoping he could explain that to us but now he has left. By the way doesn't the DSA document agree that the bombing is not justified that what is needed are ground troops? I was going to ask Nathan about that too. He seemed to support the bombing and the DSA document. Cheers, Ken Hanly P.S. When I used my bookmark for Serb-Info today I got a UK company that makes web pages. Is that a result of the bombing last night or is it just a fluke? The Belgrade University Link is still functioning.