It has been a long time since I looked at the "sports" lit., but a while
back several studies indicated that attracting a team was, at best, a wash.
It cost the local economy as much in subsidies as in new $ created (total $, 
not just tax $).  Since then the subsidies have gotten bigger, so I would
suspect it is now a loss.

The issue isn't "do the subsidies create some jobs,' but would subsidies 
put into different industries, or into the educational system create more jobs
and income.  Subsidizing education does not directly line the pockets of the 
wealthy, so they oppose it.  Builing a stadium with tax dollars for the 
second wealthies man in the world (in Seattle) gets a lot of elite support.

Doug Orr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Henry wrote:
>Jim,
>
>Shrinking the size of the economy, even parts that are heavily subsidized,
>reduces growth by definition.  We must not confuse fair distribution of cost
>and benefits with the aggregate size of the economy.
>Full socialization of the NFL would be a better solution.  What you are
>objecting to is the socialization of cost without corresponding socialization
>of benefits.
>The problem of Yankee stadium is not that it is located in the Bronx but that
>it does not benefit the Bronx.  Moving it to New Jerzy will hurt the NYC
>economy.  Lincoln Center is located in Manhattan, and benfits Manhattan.  The
>NYSE is located on Wall Street and it benefits Manhattan and NYC in general,
>the profiteers live in Manhattan, and the staff live in Queens.
>The progressive elite can wait for the revolution but the poor cannot.

I contribute too many missives to pen-l and I'm no expert on urban
development. What do others on pen-l think? Should LA subsidize an NFL team
to locate here? Is it a good idea for other cities to do so? Does it
promote the _type_ of development we want? Should the poor hook their
fortunes to Al Davis and the NFL? (The possibility of "full socializaton"
seems off the agenda.)

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &
http://clawww.lmu.edu/Faculty/JDevine/jdevine.html



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