Michael Perelman wrote:
> In fact, I suspect that once we began to struggle against
> the system is now stands and build counter institutions, these counter
> institutions would be more likely to form the basis of any future
> socialist state that some recipe that we would cook up here on a male
> list.
I didn't realize Pen-l was gender exclusive. ;-) Seriously though, I think
that the impasse reflects an underlying agreement that production and
consumption are somehow just two sides of "the same coin" and that if we
can somehow get one or the other operating properly, the other will follow
along in train.
Temps Walker
Sandwichman and Deconsultant