En relación a [PEN-L:1209] Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of po,
el 3 Sep 00, a las 11:00, Brad De Long dijo:
> >En relación a [PEN-L:1168] Re: A slight advantage of poverty (w, el 2
> >Sep 00, a las 7:49, Brad De Long dijo:
> >
> >>
> >> I would have thought that we would approve the replacement of
> >> nationalist-militarist iconography--that you win honor by killing
> >> others and dying for your hierarchical superiors--with
> >> consumptionist iconography--that you win a more contented
> >> lifestyle by buying your groceries more cheaply at our
> >> supermarket.
> >
> >No, we wouldn't. We wouldn't particularly in a semicolony such as
> >Argentina, where the deeds of those you call "nationalist-
> >militaristic" were in fact deeds effected during a revolutionary war,
> >a war that carried the flags of the most modern ideas in the times
> >against absolutism, the remnants of feudalism, slavery and the
> >bondage of the Indians.
>
> So does the iconography of the square focus on the triumph of
> liberty? Is it like the Place of the Bastille, or the Lincoln
> Memorial, or the 55th Massachusetts Memorial on Boston Common? From
> your description it would seem not: that the lesson taught is not that
> it is good to fight for liberty but that it is good to die to protect
> your hierarchical superiors. The cause memorialized is just--but the
> nationalist-militarist iconography seems destructive.
It is good to risk one's own life for revolution. And in the
battlefield (I ignore if you have ever had that experience, even that
of the modest battlefield of a square where your cherished and
respected political leaders, aged above 60, run to escape tear gas
and you can physically feel the necessity to give them your breath),
revolutionary principles become embodied in human beings. This is
quite easy to understand, isn't it?
On the other hand, Argentina and Latin America as a whole are subject
to permanent military and para-military aggression from the country
you live in. I think it lacks some elegance to preach pacifisim on us
from within that country. If your hierarchical superiors are, as were
the superiors in the Independence Wars of Latin America (which you
obvioulsy ignore) popular leaders, there is a revolutionary message
in protecting them.
Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
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