>  > Will you at least *think* about what the sources of the Junta's power
>>  were, and how nationalist-militarist iconography reinforces them?
>
>Not only I think about them, I have written lots on the issue, and
>that monster you hate, nationalist-militaristic iconography, had to
>do with them only in the flaccid minds of Buenos Aires petty
>bourgeois intelectuals who feared bombings of the city if the just
>war over our occupied territories would go ahead.

I think this is--as a result of the reference to the Argentine 
Junta's attempt to conquer the Malvinas Islands, and unintentionally 
on Nestor's part--game and set to me

Nationalist militarism is truly a powerful and insidious poison.

When most of us outside of Argentina look at the Junta's early 1980s 
war to conquer the Malvinas Islands, we see it as analogous to 
Indonesia's occupation of East Timor: not a "just war" but a most 
unjust war.

Why? Because:

--Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the 
governed, not because some predecessor government had a historical 
connection with the territory. And the people living on the islands 
did not consent to be subjected to the Argentinian Junta.

--Governments have no business annexing regions inhabited by people 
who speak a different language. And the people living on the islands 
did not speak the same language as spoken in Argentina.

--Governments that throw people out of helicopters into the South 
Atlantic have no business ruling anybody, let along waging war to 
increase the number of people they rule.


So why in God's name would anyone think that a war to conquer the 
Malvinas Islands for the Argentinian Junta was a just war? The answer 
is that nobody does--save those whose minds have been so poisoned 
that they believe that the power interests of the Argentinian State 
(without inquiry into the way that state power is exercised, or by 
whom) must trump all other considerations.

So as I said back at the beginning of this: it's much better to have 
a square filled with banners from supermarkets competing to sell you 
better food cheaper than one filled with statues teaching that dulce 
et decorum pro patria mori...


Brad DeLong

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