At 09:05 AM 10/08/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>But to the extent that they [Tudjman and Milosevic] were essentially 
>collaborators, why any socialist would even think of defending Milosevic 
>given his mirroring of neofascist practice in neighboring Croatia - 
>whether just in practice or in direct planned collaboration as has 
>allegedly been revealed recently.

I don't understand why anyone would defend either Milosevic _or_ the 
US/NATO terror-bombing of the Serbian people. It also makes no sense to 
support the bombing _and_ support the people who suffered from it when they 
rebel against the Boss. (As is usual with strategic bombing, the military 
is most prepared to handle it, so the civilians get its brunt.)

While I am glad that Milosevic is out of power and I hope that their role 
in overthrowing him gives the working class some power until the US and its 
ilk take over more completely (as in Kosova/o), we have to consider the 
alternative that could really prevail. A mass movement of the people -- 
even working-class people -- aren't always right. They can be right about 
Milosevic while wrong about other, very important issues, just as the mass 
rebellion against the Shah of Iran was right about overthrowing him and 
wrong about supporting the Ayatollah.  Though I can't claim that his 
opinion represents the majority or even a sizable minority of the Serbian 
population, the one Serb I talked to via e-mail threw anti-Semitic insults 
at Madeline Allbright. It's quite possible that the US/NATO bombing of 
Serbia encouraged such attitudes, given the kind of ethnic politics that 
replaced Titoism after its remnants were driven into the ground by the IMF, 
etc. The fact that Kostunica is a Serbian nationalist is consistent with 
such chauvinism, as is the "Western" power elites' emphasis on the need for 
ethnically-pure cantons as a "solution" for Yugoslavia's rampant ethnic 
nationalism (and the fact that aid is going to come in dribs and drabs, all 
with strings attached to force the imposition of neo-liberalism). Look at 
the rise of neo-Nazism in eastern Germany and elsewhere in the former East 
Bloc. I don't expect Nazism to prevail (since Nazism is such an 
extraordinary phenomenon, head and shoulders below "normal" fascism), but 
the neo-liberal revolution from above is hardly going to prevent it or its 
milder cousin.

BTW, the link between Tudjman and Milosevic doesn't surprise me at all. 
Rabid ethnic nationalists can get along, as long as they can easily find a 
way to split their territories (e.g., with a "no man's land" like Bosnia). 
As I noted elsewhere, even fascists of different nationalities can get 
along even if they officially hate each other, as with the French fascists 
(Maurras _et al_) and the Nazis before World War II. Of course, both 
Tudjman and Milosevic probably "played the ethnic nationalist card" for 
opportunistic reasons, to promote their own careers, rather than as result 
of a heart-felt emotion. That allowed them to work together even better. 
(BTW, the US also worked with Tudjman, right? What does that say about it?)

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