So is there some age limit on this "responsibility"? Are ten year old's
guilt=free? Are those suffering Alzheimers'
excluded? Are those who voiced opposition or even disapproved in thought OK?
Aren't Americans going to need
a humungous throng of shrinks to help Americans deal with their collective
guilt?
   Cheers, Ken Hanly

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From: Nathan Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [PEN-L:2895] Re: Re: Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louis Proyect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > But the fact that he was able to do
> >so reflects not just his personal qualities but a rough reflection of the
> >Serbian democratic will, an unfortunate reflection on that population.
And
> >that is one reason I could support the Kosovo intervention and war with
> >Serbia, precisely because there was collective responsibility by Serbians
> >for the crimes in Kosovo - collective responsibility in the sense that
all
> >democratic systems share for their government's policy.
>
> -Interesting. The Goldhagen thesis adapted to Yugoslavia.
>
> Short memory.  I did that a while ago.  But the idea that people might
have
> some responsibility for the actions of their government is hardly some
> bizarro way-out idea.  It's a basic tenet of any democratic theory.  And
> when a people democratically support atrocities by their government, it is
> not just the leadership that bears responsibility but the people
themselves.
>
> Some people have noted that Milsoevic was partly rejected in this election
> because the population wanted to escape the sanctions that the US and
Europe
> have imposed.  That result is exactly the point of imposing the sanctions.
> And they made sense only because we had some expectation that popular
> pressure could force Milosevic out.   Compare this to the sanctions
against
> Iraq, which amount to the murder of innocents, since the Iraqi people have
> so little democratic power, it is hard to hold them responsible for
> Hussein's government's actions, and they have little power to oust him.
>
> -- Nathan Newman
>
>
>

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