Mat wrote:
>Let's be very clear. I have stated previously that not only do I reject the
>equating of temporal priority with "superiority" I also do not accept 
>arguments
>that capitalism was developing in other areas of the world.  More importantly,
>Williams-Rodney and contemporary proponents of Williams Rodney make no such
>arguments. If anything, it is the other way around. Alternative traditional
>modes were disrupted and destroyed by capitalism, and the rise of 
>capitalism in
>Europe reflects, if not "inferiority", cultural-ideological and other 
>conditions
>that are certainly not the source of any kind of "bragging rights."

however, it sure seems that Louis equates temporal priority with 
"superiority." He lambastes Brenner, for example, because the latter argues 
that England was first to suffer from full-scale capitalism.  He then 
equates this temporal priority to "superiority" by inaccurately asserting 
that Brenner saw the priority as arising from England's relative efficiency.

In another missive, he inaccurately says that >Brenner ... believe[s] that 
capitalism arose in England purely as a consequence of internal factors.<

In yet another missive, Louis says: >I argue against the proposition that 
capitalism arose in England purely as a consequence of internal factors 
uninfluenced by colonialism and slavery.<

This is a red herring. There's no-one on the left who ignores colonialism 
and slavery. Brenner doesn't, for example. If you ask Wood, I'd bet she 
doesn't either. Her book seems to be at an inappropriately high level of 
abstraction (leaving out a lot of stuff that Marx talks about, for 
example), which might be explained by the fact that she's not an historian. 
(Brenner _is_ an historian, which helps explain some of the weird stuff in 
his academic-style works like his _Economics of Global Turbulence_, e.g., 
his not mentioning of the poor countries outside of East Asia. Historians 
are supposed to limit their discussion to stuff they have evidence 
concerning.)

The fact is that we can learn from both Brenner and Blaut, from Wood and 
A.G. Frank. We can't expect any of these folks to be the font of all wisdom.

BTW, Brenner called me the other day. He tells me that he's changed his 
first name to Renegade, so that from now on he's "the Renegade Brenner." 
(This is quite efficient, BTW, since he doesn't have to get new luggage 
since his initials haven't changed.)

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

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