> The enclosure movement in England helped convert feudal-style lords into 
> bourgeois land-owners (or rather, changed the property relations so that 
> bourgeois laws applied), so that industrial or full-blown capitalism 
> (M-C-M') prevailed there first. The urban bourgeoisie was relatively small 
> under feudalism. 

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> CB: Is there a claim by someone ( not necessarily you) that this
 new agricultural bourgeoisie started M-C-M' ing madly before the 
merchant/pirate/moneylending/manufacturing/ madding crowd in the 
towns and cities , and on the high seas ?
> 

Charles, what's the point of engaging in a debate in which the most 
elementary facts are ignored such as the fact that 45% of the land 
in England was already enclosed in 1500, before the so-called 
landlord initiated "wave of enclosure of the sixteenth century" 
(Brenner-Wood), a century which only saw an additional 2% of the 
land enclosed? You might as well go and read  Progress 
Publishers book, "The ABCs of the Origin of Capitalism". I think I 
was still living with my mother when I read that stuff.

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