Yea, Max, I figure the key thing we can get out of this tie election is to mar at least the Bush presidency ( the important thing is stain the presidency ,not just the president) and maybe the Supremacy Courtacy. Charles B. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/00 11:45AM >>> fyi max Just Our Bill by Dennis Roddy, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Saturday, December 02, 2000 Lito Pena is sure of his memory. Thirty-six years ago he, then a Democratic Party poll watcher, got into a shoving match with a Republican who had spent the opening hours of the 1964 election doing his damnedest to keep people from voting in south Phoenix. -clip-