Louis,
I read michael. I did not hear him.
Perhaps you did not answer because your
arguments are at least partly wet. I also
remind that his note was irrelevant. I was
not criticizing Milosevic personally but his
colleagues.
Yes, michael, I will now shut up about this.
But when Louie starts doing capitals, he needs
to be reminded to COOL IT.
Barkley Rosser
----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis Proyect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 3:49 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:9778] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Once again history is stranger
than fiction
> DIDN'T YOU HEAR PERELMAN TO CUT THIS OUT? YOU HAVE WRITTEN 3 TIMES ON THIS
> TOPIC AND I HAVE NOT ANSWERED YOU. GET A CLUE.
>
>
> At 03:34 PM 3/29/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Louis,
> > Just in case you have not noticed, I am not
> >a fan of rapid privatizations or ones that emphasize
> >foreign takeovers. I have been in favor of the Slovenian
> >model on privatization, from workers' management
> >to workers' ownership, although I understand that you
> >are ultimately not a fan of that.
> > Are you denying the widespread reports that there
> >were corrupt privatizations under Milosevic? I know that
> >you want to turn him into a great socialist hero. But it
> >just is not going to fly very far, although if the folks in
> >Serbia now really mess things up, he may end up as that,
> >sort of.
> > BTW, the kind of thing going on under him resembled
> >what went on under Tudjman in Croatia, corrupt privatizations
> >for cronies. The Tudjman crowd is now out also. I have
> >long argued that the similarities between Tudjman and
> >Milosevic far outweighed their apparent differences.
> >Barkley Rosser
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Louis Proyect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:52 PM
> >Subject: [PEN-L:9750] Re: Re: Re: Once again history is stranger than
> >fiction
> >
> >
> >> >Louis,
> >> > You are right that the article does not provide
> >> >much evidence of thievery by Milosevic personally.
> >> >But it certainly provides quite a bit of it regarding
> >> >his cronies. To say that most of those millions
> >> >abroad were strictly for getting around the embargo
> >> >is naivete at the worst.
> >>
> >> There is no evidence, just assertions. In the one instance where there
is
> >> something substantial, it amounts to this:
> >>
> >> "Mladjan Dinkic, the new central bank governor who is on a crusade to
> >> recover the cash, estimates the overall sum at $4bn. The bulk was
> >> used not for personal gain, but to keep Serbia trading through a decade
of
> >> United Nations economic sanctions."
> >>
> >> I have done a thorough Lexis-Nexis search on Milosevic and corruption.
The
> >> one thing that kept getting mentioned was that there was patronage. Big
> >> deal, I say. No reason to make the country and its leaders a pariah.
> >>
> >> > The issue of corrupt privatizations by his cronies
> >> >was discussed at length.
> >>
> >> Sure, it did get discussed.
> >>
> >> >One of the more bizarre
> >> >remarks you made in connection with all this was your
> >> >complaint about "illegal" seizures by workers of enterprises
> >> >in Serbia. Once again, most of those were to undo the
> >> >corrupt privatizations carried out by Milosevic's cronies.
> >> >The reporting of this has been extensive.
> >>
> >> I have no idea what you are referring to. The only thing being "undone"
in
> >> Serbia today is state ownership. What else would you expect from a
> >> government that begs for imperialist dollars like a dog at a dining
table.
> >>
> >>
> >> Louis Proyect
> >> Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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