>>It is true that most of the TW are not part of this global
>>economy.  China is enough to subsidize the US with its low wage
>>production....
>>
>>Cheers, Anthony
>
>The implication is that China would be a richer place if it exported 
>less, and thus subsidized the U.S. less--that each container that 
>leaves Shanghai for Long Beach is a subtraction to Chinese living 
>standards.
>
>I cannot see how that could possibly be true...
>
>Brad DeLong

I think China as a nation will have a higher level of productive 
forces than now if it continues to expand its participation in the 
global capitalist economy, exporting goods to the USA or whatever, 
without glitches like protectionism by the USA & other rich nations. 
At the same time, the same industrial development through capitalism 
will uproot the majority of peasants, intensify labor discipline of 
proletarians, reduce their standards of living, pollute the 
environment, etc. for at the very least some decades to come (as it 
already has to a significant degree).  After a period of industrial 
misery, Chinese proletarians may gain higher standards of living _if_ 
they win some victories in class struggles, though that's not at all 
guaranteed.

On the other hand, the above may not happen, in that the capitalist 
road may create enough worker, peasant, and/or ethnic minority 
uprisings to change China's political course.  Or maybe the world 
capitalist economy will tank.  Who knows?

Yoshie

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