At 27/05/01 17:54 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:


>It was not Hitler's attacks on the Jews that brought the United States into
>World War II

Indeed there is some evidence that the entry of the US was used by Hitler 
as the excuse to trigger the "final solution".



But Louis Proyect's post is more than a critique of a recent melodramatic 
film. He is using it to argue his consistent case that any compromise 
internationally with some imperialist powers at the time of the Second 
World War, was opportunist, and that the great international united front 
against fascism was unprincipled.

Whatever evidence there is of the considerable negative features of the 
allied imperialist powers, that cannot disguise the general argument that 
the fascist powers were more aggressive in their new attacks on the 
international settlement and on bourgeois democratic rights within countries.

We still benefit today from the positive effects of the victory of this 
international united front against fascism.

Much of this ground has been covered over the last five years. The 
importance is the implications for today. Whatever he may say, the message 
is in practice clearly one of "no compromises!".

So long as Louis Proyect concentrates on trying to analyse history from a 
position he regards as completely correct, the longer will he be unable to 
engage in the current important issues of what compromises need to be made 
now, to forward a progressive agenda internationally, and within the USA .

Needless to say, although he advertises his Marxism list at the bottom of 
every post, I do not consider his position to be marxist in methodology.

In fact could Michael Pearlman give some attention to the provocative 
nature of this continued promotion. Although Louis Proyect recognises the 
existence of a number of marxism lists,  the repeated promotion of his own 
creates an impression, coupled with his dogmatic style of writing, that he 
is claiming only one centre of marxism. It undoubtedly leads to some 
arguments on this list being more charged in tone than would be otherwise 
be necessary. I suggest it would be more constructive if he drew attention 
to his list, say, once a week on average, in association with what he 
considers to be a particularly useful contribution for PEN-L

Chris Burford

London

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