At 6:28 PM +0100 6/22/01, Mark Jones wrote:
>The 'first practical problems' you face in truth are the complete
>unrealisability of and utopian hopelessness of the programme you propose.

The first practical problem anywhere these days is to unite & 
mobilize disparate organizers & movements behind a coherent political 
program, plain & simple.  No mobilization, no political movement 
forward, no socialism.

At 6:28 PM +0100 6/22/01, Mark Jones wrote:
>what you can get and will get is infrastructure failure
>a la California and a la USSR

That, too, has to be turned into an occasion to point it out as a 
necessary comeuppance of the decades of under-investment in 
infrastructure under neoliberalism through privatization & 
deregulation.

Yoshie

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