No, I didn't mean you are in the bourgeois class. ( I'm in the petit bourgeoisie 
myself , whether I like it or not )

I'm thinking a socialist is someone who supports working class interests and opposes 
bourgeois class interests, and aims to end capitalism. This is why a socialist aims to 
support working class(wide) unity.


Non-socialists of all types - trade unionist, social-democrat or liberal - in some 
sense supports both working class and bourgeois class interests, seeing them as 
compatible in some sense or ways. 

But I don't see how one can be loyal to both classes ( whether in one of the main 
classes or not ). Or to the specific comment in the thread, I don't see how "real  
(enduring) workng class solidarity" could  be achieved by those also supporting 
bourgeois class interests. Maybe you are saying temporary and situational working 
class solidarity ?

Charles B

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If you're one of those you don't identify
w/the bourgeois class.  Just because you're
in a class doesn't mean you serve its interests.

mbs



But don't you have a conflict of interest and loyalties between the working
class and the bourgeois class ?

Charles

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/19/01 04:34PM >>>
Plenty, if you're a smart trade unionist,
social-democrat, or even a labor-friendly liberal.

mbs

))))))))

CB: Speaking of (working) class solidarity, isn't that a socialist concept ?
What use do non-socialists have for working class solidarity ?


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