>
>CB: No, no, Justin, I'm the one wishing in this thread. I'm putting forth a 
>utopian socialism. Engels has turned into his opposite.

Charles, I didn't know you had it in you.

>
>But seriously, I only meant that because Marxism is true, it has a tendency 
>to  fulfill itself. But there can be countervailing influences to this 
>tendency. How this struggle will come out in the end is difficult to say. 
>But I don't think you can count out a revival of Marxism, because its 
>truths are confirmed everyday, say in Argentina. I mean the people in 
>Argentina may be foreclosed from becoming Marxists or communists en masse 
>today because of the specific anti-communist institutions that capitalism 
>has built up in response to the SU and the first wave of socialist 
>revolutions. But what about an Argentine depression in the next generation 
>, when anti-communist institutions have faded, and people have no 
>anti-communist trends like today.

Didn't someone say something about what happens when history repeats itself 
the second time?

>Marxism will seem like an amazinginly accurate description of what is 
>happening to them. So, it is hard to count out Marxist revival forever , as 
>you do.

I think what is novel in my position is that I do not deny the substantial 
truth content of historical materialism; but the truth may not be enough. 
Someone also said something about the philosophers merely interpreting the 
world in various way.

jks



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