Sabri Oncu wrote:

>Let me ask you a direct question: Is it your point that
>capitalism is not as bad a system as some of us here think it is?

It's awful, but I guess it beats slavery or feudalism. But it's also 
a deeply contradictory system, producing wealth and possibility 
alongside poverty and oppression. A friend of mine who spent a few 
years as a reporter in Vietnam interviewed Nike workers who told her 
that they prefer their sweatshop jobs to what they would have been 
doing otherwise - things like chasing rats in rice paddies (not much 
fun to be a woman on the farm). Anticapitalists - and I'm one - often 
overlook that sort of thing. And capitalism often produces great 
booms, though PEN-Lers seem to prefer talking about busts. Which kind 
of begs the question of just how capitalist China is, and what 
lessons it might hold for other poor countries.

Doug

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