Chris Buford:

>But it is not the case that there is nothing in the EZ that conforms to 
>the progressive interests of working people, just because it is a victory 
>for the ruling class. For one thing they generally appreciate the benefits 
>of a large market, as Lenin noted, in an aside on the national question.

Lenin never said anything of the sort.

>But most importantly, geopolitically, it is necessary now to call into 
>existence the Old World  to redress the balance of the New.

I have no idea what this means.

>There is a sometimes a counterposed symmetry in the positions of Louis 
>Proyect and mine. I regard it as the first international duty of any 
>citizen of the USA to oppose US hegemonism, and to pay due attention to 
>all the rival forces in the world, including the other imperialisms in 
>order to have a realistic chance of doing so. I tend to assume that Louis 
>Proyect would regard the first duty of a citizen of a western European 
>country to oppose their own imperialism and the new European imperialism, 
>and I have to concede there are quite a number of Lenin quotations to this 
>effect.

I wish you would post them to the list. They would have a less deleterious 
effect than genuflections to the Euro-Zone.

>I  see the development of a more diversified world in which power is 
>struggled over between imperialist blocs, so long as they do not go in for 
>war, as favourable to the interests of the working people of the world, 
>and to the development of world unity and world government on the basis of 
>some relative justice.

For the workers, the choice between US imperialism and European imperialism 
is like the choice between cyanide and arsenic.

>That will make it easier, not more difficult, to move on to the struggle 
>for socialism. IMO.

I see. The triumph of Euro-Zone neoliberalism, which will prevail over the 
smoldering ruins of the Social Democratic welfare state, will bring us 
closer to socialism. This "dialectical" insight takes my breath away.




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