Mike B writes:>China is richer these days because the wage-slaves are more productive than ever. < they're richer (per capita) partly because "richer" and "productivity" are measured in terms of GDP, which ignores non-market costs and benefits. Jim
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Ballard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 8/9/2003 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Road to Serfdom --- Martin Hart-Landsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In short, based on my study of the Chinese experience, while there were some in the state that just supported growing marketization for their own gain, there were many in the party that saw the need to overcome problems of imbalance and inefficiency from the Mao era and sought to do so by encouraging competition between firms and this lead step by step to promotion of profits, and the creation of a labor market and ... ta-da-doom........the coninuation of wage-slavery, classes, the State and all the undemocratic baggage that goes with that sort of political-economy. Not that the more Mao inspired system of State controlled commodity production didn't result in much the same system with, of course, variations on all the abovementioned themes. China is richer these days because the wage-slaves are more productive than ever. The same is true for the USA where according to the "New York Times", "The Labor Department reported that productivity -- the amount that an employee produces per hour of work -- rose at an annual rate of 5.7 percent in the April to June quarter. That was the best performance since the third quarter of 2002." The question is, "Who controls and owns the social product of labour, the marketeers or the producers?" Best, Mike B) ===== ***************************************************************** Cognitive dissonance is the inner conflict produced when long-standing beliefs are contradicted by new evidence. http://profiles.yahoo.com/swillsqueal __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com