Sabri, I mentioned that he did worse later in his term, but that he was not all that bad in Latin America. Nothing more. Murder, of course, is part of the job description of the US presidency.
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:19:57PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote: > What does "in short, he was not universally bad" mean Michael? > > Being the President of the USA during the 1980 military coup in Turkey, > Carter is also responsible for the deaths of thousands of people in > Turkey, both before and after the coup. > > We are not talking about killing one person by accident here. > > What difference does it make how many when the murderer is killing in > the order thousands? > > Sabri > > ++++++++++ > > http://www.zaman.com/print.php?kn=2735 > > Journalist Birand Denies Henze's Accusations - with Evidence > > Istanbul, TURKEY, June 14, 2003 - Journalist Mehmet Ali Birand has > denied US National Security Council Advisor Paul Henze's remark (about > this [Sabri]): "Our boys did it" - related to September 12 1980 coup - > to then US President Jimmy Carter. > > Responding to Henze's statement to Zaman that the "Our boys did it" > remark was made up by Birand, the journalist aired a videocassette in > his own defense on the program "Manset" on CNN Turk yesterday. "Our boys > did it" could be seen and heard coming from Paul Henze. In the footage, > the person informing Carter about the coup in Ankara is not Henze but > another diplomat. However, Henze who related the incident to Birand, > says on the video the message "Our boys did it" (which [Sabri]) was > conveyed to president Carter. The interview between the two in 1997 went > as follows: > > Birand: First of all, did the CIA and the Pentagon have the information > about the coup beforehand? > > Henze: I don't think so. I was informed of the coup that evening > (September 12, 1980) as well. I received a call from the National > Security Council. President Carter was at the Kennedy Center. I said on > the phone that this message has to be conveyed immediately. I made a > phone call. Carter did not leave his location. In the end, it was a very > positive development. And the following day, the dominant atmosphere in > Washington was relaxed. The generals were on top of the subject. It was > obvious that they did the job in a peaceful and effective way. Anyway, > their duty was to get rid of the terrorists and to do that in an > effective way. > > Birand: What was your message to President Carter? > > Henze: I don't recall exactly what he said. But as far as I remember, > when the person who was on duty at the National Security Council at the > time, called me and said something like, 'The boys in Ankara did it.' > That meant that the generals were in action. That was the whole story > anyways. Everything had been done with a very soft style. It was obvious > that everything had been planned extremely carefully. > > Ibrahim Balta / Istanbul / TURKEY > -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
