it may be good luck if the scare-mongers are correct that  we're going to run out of 
oil soon, since that would limit the burning of hydrocarbons and moderate the tendency 
toward global warmng. -- Jim D.

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: paul phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Sat 4/10/2004 11:44 PM 
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        Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Mark Jones Was Right
        
        

        Without trying to get into  the specific debating points in this thread,
        I find the unreality of the debate to be numbing.  There are a number of
        points that I think we can all agree on.
        
        1.  That there is a growing threat that global warming is a real and
        imminent danger.
        
        2. That global warming is, at least in a significant part, caused by the
        use fossil fuels, in particular petroleum.
        
        3. That attempting to raise the standard of living of the existing
        population of the developing world to the level of the western
        industrialized countries is not possible without a major change
        (reduction in standard?) in the consumption standards of the developed
        world.
        


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