Hi Ravi, you wrote:

--- ravi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i do not know about fighters, but definitely quite a
few kashmiris have
been killed in kashmir by indian forces. a simple
search on amnesty.org
for 'kashmir' yields multiple pages and reports of
abuse and murder
perpetrated by the indian govt and armed forces.

---
It's counterinsurgency war -- the main victims in
counterinsurgency war are always civilian. It's
probably the most brutal form of warfare there is. I
don't know about the state of the Indian Army, but
most of the horrors against civilians in Chechnya
(leavinf aside the tricky question of how to define
the term "civilian") are the result of terrified and
trigger-happy drafted soldiers who want to get home
alive and therefore shoot first and ask questions
later.


---
BBC> What started as essentially an indigenous popular
uprising in
BBC> Indian-administered Kashmir has in the last 12
years undergone
BBC> major changes.
BBC> <...>
BBC> some of the groups that were in the forefront of
the
BBC> armed insurgency in 1989 - particularly the
pro-independence
BBC> Jammu-Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF) - have
receded into the
BBC> background.

---
Sounds like Chechnya to me. I would go as far as to
say that anytime the international mujaheedin start to
figure prominantly in a conflict, it has almost
certainly been hijacked.



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