I'd go with what Sean says here. It all depends on the level of popular support that can be mobilized for it.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Sean Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Nov 6, 2008, at 8:42 PM, Max B. Sawicky wrote: >> >>> Assuming you think this is not a trivial piece of legislation, where do >>> all you hot lefts stand >>> on the prospects for the bill? Are you prepared to be >>> embarrassed/pleasantly surprised? >> >> He'll make a symbolic stand, and then surrender as the Reps filibuster it. >> >> Doug > > Doesn't it really depend on whether this is seen as a widespread issue > or not? If there is a lot of support for it--you know, more than most > Union legislation in the country--then it might create some more > political counter-pressure. I think that is more unlikely than the > possibility that he would veto it or back down if there was a fight > over it. > > In other words, I think the bet should be over whether enough people > will give a shit about it to raise enough of a stink to counter the > corporate, libertarian bullshit that's already fuming over it. EFCA > is one of those things that I've seen nothing about in > quasi-liberal/left publications and websites but find people like > George Will already laying the groundwork for an Orwellian counter > push about being the real force protecting employee's freedom--from > unions. In that environment, there would be no political gain for him > to help pass it, even if he believed in the principles behind it > (which, IIRC, he has said he does at some point.) This, indeed, would > be a test case, but not in terms of whether "The One" will do what's > right. Instead, it will be whether the movement that elected him has > any sense of what needs to be changed. On that, I'd say Jim (and I > guess Doug, though no $$ amount there) has the smart money at the > moment. > > s > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > -- Sandwichman _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
