me: >> Of course, there's also "socialist barbarism," as seen (for example) >> in the1930s in the USSR.
Carrol Cox wrote: > Whatever it was, it didn't last long. It wasn't capitalism, and it > wasn't really socialism, but from the beginning, of course, in a ravaged > country it faced a vicious capitalist encirclement, eventually the > (partly forseen) German invasion. right. That's why I put the phrase in quotation marks. > Without trying to classify it precisely, I would say it was essentially > just a _part_ of the overall barbarism kicked off by WWI and never > really interrupted. ... European barbarism started earlier, if we remember how bloody European colonialism was... > P.S. I hope you are right about Marxists & their views of what misery > creates. I'm going partly by the sheer bulk of (almost gleeful) accounts > of the ongoin/coming slump that I see on this list and on the marxism > list. Some at least are insecure in their marxist analysis & need > continual 'proof' that capitalism is bad. I think that a lot of this glee is simply a matter of being sick and tired of the capitalists and their apologists crowing about how wonderful their system is or getting away with (or being rewarded for) stupidity, venality, etc. and of course, crises are more exciting than non-crises. -- Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante. _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
