On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Max Sawicky wrote:

> As for MMT

More of that wonderful passage from The Grundrisse:

<http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1857/grundrisse/ch02.htm>

We have here reached the fundamental question, which is no longer related to 
the point of departure. The general question would be this: Can the existing 
relations of production and the relations of distribution which correspond to 
them be revolutionized by a change in the instrument of circulation, in the 
organization of circulation? Further question: Can such a transformation of 
circulation be undertaken without touching the existing relations of production 
and the social relations which rest on them? If every such transformation of 
circulation presupposes changes in other conditions of production and social 
upheavals, there would naturally follow from this the collapse of the doctrine 
which proposes tricks of circulation as a way of, on the one hand, avoiding the 
violent character of these social changes, and, on the other, of making these 
changes appear to be not a presupposition but a gradual result of the 
transformations in circulation. An error in this fundamental pre!
 mise would suffice to prove that a similar misunderstanding has occurred in 
relation to the inner connections between the relations of production, of 
distribution and of circulation. The above-mentioned historical case cannot of 
course decide the matter, because modern credit institutions were as much an 
effect as a cause of the concentration of capital, since they only form a 
moment of the latter, and since concentration of wealth is accelerated by a 
scarcity of circulation (as in ancient Rome) as much as by an increase in the 
facility of circulation. It should further be examined, or rather it would be 
part of the general question, whether the different civilized forms of money -- 
metallic, paper, credit money, labour money (the last-named as the socialist 
form) -- can accomplish what is demanded of them without suspending the very 
relation of production which is expressed in the category money, and whether it 
is not a self-contradictory demand to wish to get around essen!
 tial determinants of a relation by means of formal modifications? Vari
ous forms of money may correspond better to social production in various 
stages; one form may remedy evils against which another is powerless; but none 
of them, as long as they remain forms of money, and as long as money remains an 
essential relation of production, is capable of overcoming the contradictions 
inherent in the money relation, and can instead only hope to reproduce these 
contradictions in one or another form. One form of wage labour may correct the 
abuses of another, but no form of wage labour can correct the abuse of wage 
labour itself. One lever may overcome the inertia of an immobile object better 
than another. All of them require inertia to act at all as levers. This general 
question about the relation of circulation to the other relations of production 
can naturally be raised only at the end. But, from the outset, it is suspect 
that Proudhon and his associates never even raise the question in its pure 
form, but merely engage in occasional declamations about!
  it. Whenever it is touched on, we shall pay close attention.
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