What has any of this to do with socialism?The major means of production 
distribution and exchange remain in private hands and profit not need is the 
basis of production. Outside of the U.S. in many European countries the systems 
you suggest already exist. However neoliberal policies have eroded such 
systems. Truly socialized medicine would involve socialized inputs but almost 
all inputs into the health care system are from private corporations, medicines 
for example. The same is true of education inputs.
   While these systems are socialized they serve as benefits to the underlying 
capitalist system.  Of course to move in the directions you suggest is positive 
but they really do not show that citizens are ready for socialism.


Cheers, ken
 
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________________________________
 From: Chuck Grimes <[email protected]>
To: Progressive Economics <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:57:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Pen-l] 7/19 (NYC): Are people not ready for socialism?
 

 
IMHO this is not the right approach. 
 
Simply describe a system like Single Payer or Medicare 
for All, along with proposals for funding through a joint tax system of 
employers and employees. Some huge percentage of people support this basic idea 
as long as it is fair. Both are equivalent to socialized medicine.
 
The same goes with public education. Through a 
combination of equitable progressive taxes as the funding source with minimum 
administrative systems, the feds, states, and counties pay for public schools 
and teachers. It is essentially a socialized system. 
 
Are the masses ready for socialism? Of course they are. 
 
Another area is public transportation, etc.
 
CG
 
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