On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:03 PM, raghu <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > As soon as you refer to IQ you lose me. Can you restate your argument
>> > without  such mythology.
>>
>> Raghu's argument is that intelligence is like beauty: there's
>> no scalar metric like IQ -- that's a myth, as he agrees -- but
>> we can all tell a stupid person from an intelligent person, just as
>> we can all tell an attractive person from a troll.
>>
>> It's an original argument -- or at least, I haven't heard it before --
>> but it gives away a lot to the anti-intelligence crowd, like Carrol
>> and me.
>>
>> After all, everybody knows that beauty is in the eye of the beholder;
>> what was beautiful to Rubens is pretty repulsive to a lot of people
>> nowadays.
>>
>
>
> Perceptions of beauty are subjective - and culturally determined, but not
> entirely. This is a "glass half-full" story, but what I find remarkable is
> the surprising amount of cross-cultural *agreement* on perceptions of
> beauty.
>
> A better analogy than "beauty" would perhaps be musical tastes. It is
> obviously silly to assign numerical scores or ranks to pieces of music, but
> surely we would not go so far as to assert that there is no such thing as
> good music or bad music and that it is all just a matter of opinion?
>



This is the sort of thing I am referring to here (which is also relevant to
the fallacies of the Evol Psych crowd that was the original topic of this
thread):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566458/
--------------------------------snip
Human infants, just a few days of age, are known to prefer attractive human
faces. We examined whether this preference is human-specific. Three- to
4-month-olds preferred attractive over unattractive domestic and wild cat
(tiger) faces (Experiments
1<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566458/#S2>and
3 <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566458/#S14>). The
preference was not observed when the faces were inverted, suggesting that
it did not arise from low-level image differences (Experiments
2<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566458/#S9>and
3 <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566458/#S14>). In addition,
the spontaneous preference for attractive tiger faces influenced
performance in a recognition memory task involving attractive versus
unattractive tiger face pairings (Experiment
4<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566458/#S20>).
The findings suggest that infant preference for attractive faces reflects
the activity of general processing mechanisms rather than a specific
adaptation to mate choice.
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