My comment at New Left Project:

Thanks, Andrew, for a stimulating and provocative critique. There are a
> number of "empirical" assumptions you make that I would take issue with but
> I want to first agree with what I take to be your main point about the
> futility of what you call "social democratic lever-pulling." I'm glad you
> acknowledge the same or similar difficulties would obtain for revolutionary
> socialist lever-pulling. The levers will not be pulled.
>


> Some quibbles: First, your eight percent consumption figure presumably
> refers to market incomes, I would object that a lot, perhaps most, of life
> takes place outside of the clutches of market exchange. People outside of
> high-income countries may indeed aspire to North American-style "affluence"
> but that doesn't mean they'd be better off if they got it. Second,
> capitalist calculation is subject to rather severe restrictions and it is
> therefore true that, at least within limits, profits may be increased by
> social democratic policies that make workers better off. This doesn't mean
> such improvement can go on indefinitely, but such improvement as can be
> achieved has the potential of opening up other possibilities. That's the
> notion of transformative reforms.
>


> I would like to suggest that analysis is not enough to inform practice. In
> some cases too much analysis becomes inhibiting because it substitutes for
> practice.  I would highlight instead something Charles Tilly termed
> "repertoire". These are collective habits, behaviors and expectations that
> lead to collective action. Social democratic aspirations may thus inform
> direct action that points beyond social democratic lever pulling.



On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Tom Walker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Jamie, for posting this! Very timely. ;-)
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Jamie Stern-Weiner <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Andrew Kliman comments sceptically on the 'post-work' debate, responding
>> to, among others, David Graeber, Peter Frase, Chris Maisano and John
>> Quiggin.
>>
>> It's not utopian to dream of radically reduced working hours, he argues.
>> What's utopian is to think it could happen within capitalism.
>>
>>
>> http://www.newleftproject.org/index.php/site/article_comments/post_work_zombie_social_democracy_with_a_human_face
>>
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>
> Tom Walker (Sandwichman)
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