raghu: It is part of that puritanical spirit thing that Marxists do not seem
to give the importance to that it deserves.

Explain. What are we supposed to do with it? And what part of what you call
"Marxism" would bear one way or another on this?

I really don't know what you are talking about here.

Carrol

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Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Wall Street analysts win 75 hour week

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Marv Gandall <[email protected]> wrote:


        
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2014/01/27/140127ta_talk_surowiecki?
mobify=0



This is a nice article. Especially the last paragraph:


        To make these new policies stick, then, banks have to change not
just rules but expectations. Indeed, as Michel told me, "it isn't really
external rules that force bankers to work the way they do. It's an entire
cultural system." She cites the example of a consulting firm that mandated
that people stay out of the office on weekends, only to discover that they
were working secretly from home. In a culture that venerates overwork,
people internalize crazy hours as the norm. As the anthropologist Karen Ho
writes in her book "Liquidated," "On Wall Street, hard work is always
overwork." Grinding out hundred-hour weeks for years helps bankers think of
themselves as tougher and more dedicated than everyone else. And working
fifteen hours a day doesn't just demonstrate your commitment to a company;
it also reinforces that commitment. Over time, the simple fact that you work
so much becomes proof that the job is worthwhile, and being in the office
day and night becomes a kind of permanent initiation ritual.
        




This seems right, but I'd go further. Long work hours appears to be a very
important part of the self-justification of the Wall St crowd. It is easier
to tell yourself that those outrageous bonuses are justified if you can say
that you worked long hours and therefore deserved it.

It is part of that puritanical spirit thing that Marxists do not seem to
give the importance to that it deserves.

-raghu.







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