You're shifting the discussion now from what Bernie is to what the
Democratic Party is.

If the standard is, "challenging capitalist inequality," arguably even
Hillary is doing that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/17/business/putting-numbers-to-a-tax-increase-for-the-rich.html



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On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Louis Proyect <[email protected]> wrote:

> Venezuela certainly is capitalist but the Chavistas are using their
> party to challenge capitalist inequality. If the DP was capable of
> serving as such an instrument, I might be a Democrat myself. But the DP
> has been a ruling class party since the time of Andrew Jackson and the
> New Deal legacy came to an end nearly a half-century ago. It is time to
> move on.
>
> On 10/20/15 11:43 AM, Robert Naiman wrote:
> >
> > It's certainly understandable that some people would claim that Bernie
> > is more of a "social democrat" than a "socialist."
> >
> > But, once you go down that road, you have to concede that the same is
> > true of "socialists" all over the world who accept a "mixed economy" and
> > "bourgeois democracy." By the same argument, Chavez was a "social
> > democrat" rather than a "socialist." Anybody who has visited Venezuela
> > in the last 15 years can tell you that capitalism is doing just fine in
> > Venezuela, thank you very much. Venezuela no more became "socialist" as
> > a result of Chavez becoming President than the US became "socialist" as
> > a result of FDR becoming President.
> >
> > What is the point of fighting about this, exactly?
> >
> >
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