Working class = wage - laborers Services are commodities equally with goods , material object commodities. Producers of mass services are commodity producers and wage laborers .
Therefore , service wage-laborers are fully proletarian . https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00999.html 1. Is the working class declining ? 2. What defines membership in the working class ? 3. Does the working class include others besides wagelaborers in material production ? 4. Do wagelaborers outside of the sphere of material production create value? 5. What are service workers ? 6. Are teachers in the working class ? Do teachers create value ? Can teachers be exploited ( and who will teach the teacher ?) ? Same question about office workers, clerks, secretaries, nurses, garbage pickup workers, water plant workers, public lighting workers, et al 7. What is the difference between the working class and the working masses, if any ? working people ? 8. What is the significance of the difference between those who do predominantly mental labor as opposed to those who do predominantly physical labor ? What are white-collar workers ? What are intelligentsia or intellectuals ? 9. What are the "middle strata ", "middle classes" etc. ? 10. What does "proletarianization of the middle strata" mean ? 11. Does "proletariat" mean the same thing as "working class :" ? 12. What is the significance of the changes in the division of labor and organization of production due to the scientific and technological revolution for all of the above ? ( What is the scientific and technological revolution ? ) 13. Does the term "mode of production" have more than on meaning in Marxist terminology ? Does it apply to changes in organization of production short of a shift from capitalism to socialism, or feudalism to capitalism ? That is, changes in the socio-economic formation ? Does it apply to changes due to development and revolutions in science and technology since the Industrial Revolution ? Comment Depends upon ones point of view. What is fairly clear is the industrial class of workers did not over throw any bourgeois regime in the past century - especially in the imperial centers. The two basic classes of a social system are not free to overthrow the system they constitute. The system they constitute has a mode of production - with the property relations within. The serf did not overthrow the fedual system. The industrial workers could not and did not overthrow the industrial system - with the property relation within. Another process is involved, in my opinion. The industrial workers in Russia did not overthrow the industrial system or industrial mode of production. The Russian Revolution or the October Revolution was a social revolution to industrial society, that later evolved without the bourgeois property relations. Will try and answer some of the questions posed from my point of view and not Karl Marx point of view because I do not know how he would describe events today and he is long dead. Not saying this is jest, but all we have is each other within Marxism. America is currently undergoing a social revolution in its mode of production, with the property relations within. This was not the case in the 1930s or 1940s. The social revolution was the completion of the industrial curve of development and then the mechanization of agriculture. More later. Have to go to Wal Mart. _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list [email protected] To change your options or unsubscribe go to:
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