Well, I guess that's why Counterpunch doesn't go out of business - because
there are people on the left who worship the dogma more than they give a
shit about the truth. Once a Trot, always a Trot.



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On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Louis Proyect <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think the last graf in the Guardian article suggests that Jeff St.
> Clair is closer to the mark than you:
>
> Sanders’ campaign director, Jeff Weaver, told reporters he did not
> “anticipate we are going to contest” specific results but hoped there
> would be an investigation into what happened.
>
> You know what they say about hope and change.
>
> On 2/5/16 8:56 PM, Robert Naiman wrote:
> > Compare:
> >
> > Lead paragraph, Counterpunch:
> >
> > "Did Hillary Clinton really win the diversionary spectacle known as the
> > Iowa Caucuses by two-tenths of a percent? Probably not. But we will
> > never know. Why? Because Bernie Sanders refuses to call the results into
> > question and demand the release the raw vote totals, which would likely
> > show the senator won the actual vote by a decisive margin."
> >
> > to
> >
> > Bernie Sanders wants raw vote count released after tight finish in Iowa
> > caucuses
> > Dramatic clash with Hillary Clinton for Democratic presidential
> > nomination is sign public want change, says leftwing senator
> >
> http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/02/bernie-sanders-requests-vote-count-tight-finish-iowa-caucus-clinton
> >
> > This is the problem with Counterpunch. They just don't give a flying
> > fuck whether anything they say is true.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Naiman
> > Policy Director
> > Just Foreign Policy
> > www.justforeignpolicy.org <http://www.justforeignpolicy.org>
> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > (202) 448-2898 x1
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Louis Proyect <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     In reality, the Sanders revolution was over before it started. The
> >     revolutionary aspiration expired the moment Sanders to run in the
> >     Democratic Party primaries, instead of as an independent, where he
> might
> >     have proved a real menace to the neoliberal establishment.
> >
> >     Revolutions aren’t led by well-meaning wimps. Revolutions are about
> >     seizing power. They are about righting wrongs. Revolutions demand
> fierce
> >     confrontation and, as Robespierre might say, sharply-administered
> >     accountability. But Sanders was never interested in a real
> revolution.
> >     He’s more Hubert Humphrey than Che Guevara–a timid reformer, an
> old-time
> >     liberal ranting in the antechambers of a party that has long since
> made
> >     its Faustian bargain with the agents of austerity. For the Democrats,
> >     there’s no going back from that deal of shame.
> >
> >     Left and right, the sour mood of the country burns for a true
> political
> >     and economic rebellion. It may well happen. But look for it out on
> the
> >     streets, not in the hollow rituals of these elections.
> >
> >
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