On 3/12/16 1:41 PM, Marv Gandall wrote: > …Which, you neglect to add, will result in socialist revolution. It’s > mistaken to assert that Marx and Engels linked free trade with the > bourgeois revolution. They well understood that bourgeois revolutions > in England, Germany, the US, and elsewhere had preceded the advent of > free trade.
All I said was that free trade was associated in M&E's mind with the bourgeois revolution not a prerequisite. This should have been obvious from what he wrote in "On the Question of Free Trade": "The English workers have made the English free-traders realize that they are not the dupes of their illusions or of their lies; and if, in spite of this, the workers made common cause with them against the landlords, it was for the purpose of destroying the last remnants of feudalism and in order to have only one enemy left to deal with." What do you think he meant by" destroying the last remnants of feudalism" except consolidating the bourgeois revolution? > Nobody is arguing to put the genie back in the bottle. You’re > confusing open access to the world market, which is progressive, with > how global capitalism has structured that access through so-called > free trade deals in its own interests. Oh sure, everybody knows I am infamous for supporting TPP and other such trade agreements. > > Neither Sanders nor any of the left-wing opponents of these deals are > against access to the world market. They are for restructuring these > deals so that they do not serve to suppress wages on a global scale > and allow corporations to attack state regulation of the economy and > social spending. Wages are declining because corporations have the right to prowl the planet for labor willing to work for a lower wage. This is called the race to the bottom. How electing Bernie Sanders will prevent corporations for setting up in Bangladesh or Cambodia is rather a mystery to me, especially since he is not particularly anticapitalist. Just look at his model: Volvo gears up for manufacturing in China The Swedish car company - now under Chinese ownership - is flourishing under its new management and preparing to export vehicles made in its new Chengdu plant to the US full: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/engineering/11562656/Volvo-gears-up-for-manufacturing-in-China.html _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
