Joel Blau wrote:
>
> The difference is that in England, religion helps to
> constitute a real working class, while here, Evangelism gives expression
> to what might best be described as deformed class feeling.
>

This is probably correct, but the proper response is to work on building
political consciousness, not attacking religion directly, which is so
much wasted breath. (Qualification: in private conversation with
religious people _already_ beginning to have qualms about their 'faith'
it is proper to try to strengthen those qualms.) The expression of
anti-religious feelings on this list is mere pointless self-expression
-- but so are generalized statements about how "most" leftists or "The
Left" responds to religion: such statements are mostly a pastiche of
urban legends. Most leftists in their practice respond very sensibly to
religious people.

Whining over evangelicals electing Bush is also silly. It took an awful
lot of the regular "secular  christians" also to elect him. It's always
silly to ascribe an electoral victory (or defeat) to any one component
of the votes for the victor. There are 10s of millions of americans
which the left can reach before it has to worry about converting
evangelicals to secularism.

Carrol

(Re England: Religion helpED not helps there, I suspect.)

Carrol

> Joel Blau
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