...Because when we do leave, Iraq will be a wasteland or it will be a satrap.

Everyone you call an 'international jihadist' is making a bet on
'satrap', only our physical presence will be gone, and that will help
some, but... well how long did it take to execute or assassinate all
of the Native American 'Peace Chiefs' who illegitimately gave away an
earth which tradition taught them that no one owns?

The changes due to their actions were permanent though, and our having
hand picked the people that the Iraqis could vote for is the same
situation, with what is going to be exactly the same outcome. Dead
'Chalabis' for years to come and in the Muslim world, a rather
permanent hatred of the west.

That means permanent war too... and as I suggested earlier:

Everyone in America thinks we are just going to walk away from this
cultural and social destruction of Iraq as if it was just some sort of
mistake. Oops, sorry about that and all.....

'They" are Soooooo wrong.

...and something to the effect of 'get with the program', endless war,
or STOP IT!

FWIW, the US government AND it's people need to admit culpability
before the the issue can even be approached rationally.

1] Admit you HAVE a problem.

That's right, America needs a serious 12 step program to curb it's
narcissism and militarism.

The 'international jihadists' R us, and the people of the region are
bringing the war 'home to us' because we've made Iraq and it's
culture-to-be  'home' to our troops and our hand picked westernized
Iraqis.

It will take literally hundreds of years to undo the cultural and
social effects of the west's hostile/self-centric presence in Iraq, if
it can be undone at all and the 'peace chiefs' are a particularly
depressing example but it's a 'fit'

Leigh

On 3/6/07, Yoshie Furuhashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/6/07, Leigh Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry Yoshie, I don't buy it.
> We are the "international jihadists".
>
> We destroyed Iraq's schools and libraries, allowed them to be looted
> while we guarded the Iraqi oil ministry. We rebuilt one in a hundred and
> said WOW! ain't Bechtel doing great!
>
> Pushed school textbooks on Iraq's educational sysyem with the name
> Saddam Hussein expunged, printed in America.
>
> ...and due to almost 100 years of political, social, and cultural
> suppression by governments that were mostly created by western oil
> interests, various factions have responded to our crude attempt at
> regional hegemony by bringing the war home to us.
>
> It's really that simple, and any attempt to paint it otherwise is a BIG LIE.

The US media are surely shedding crocodile tears when they lament the
destruction of a literary street in Iraq, when they did everything
they could to sell the war to the Americans in the first place and are
selling the Iran campaign even now.  And I agree with you on American
responsibility for what's happening.

But international jihadists will likely remain in Iraq and wreak havoc
for some time even after the US withdrawal.
--
Yoshie
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