That follows seems we are moving toward a position that we can all accept.  I 
would
add that LeRoy Ladurie, Emmanuel. 1974. The Peasants of Languedoc, trans. John 
Day
(Urbana: University of Illinois Press)
shows how the growth of internal (not just external) markets can undermine the
collectivity of a community -- in this case, the crude market for money lending.

It is intersting to me that all major religions comdemn moneylending -- although
Ekelund, Robert B., Jr, Robert F. Hebert and Robert D. Tollison.
   1989. "An Economic Model of the Medieval Church: Usury as a Form
   of Rent Seeking." Journal of Law, Economics and Organization, Vol
   5, No. 2 (Fall): pp. 307-31

say that the Catholic church only did so to maintain its monopoly on usury -- 
that
the church itself was a capitalistic organization.


On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:36:32AM -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
> Paul Phillips wrote:
> > > The tragedy of the commons is, rather,
> > > the tragedy of capitalist imperialism
> > > upon the local social regulation that
> > > makes the commons an efficient
> > > community production resource.
>
> Julio Huato wrote:
> > But isn't an aspect of the overall "efficiency" (historical viability)
> > of a social structure its ability to withstand the pressure of
> > competing social structures?  In the present circumstances, it cannot
> > be a strong argument in favor of communism to say that it works if and
> > only if there are no markets or capitalism around to erode it.
>
> the historical process is too contingent to say this. we might reverse
> Diamond's hypothesis and say that if the geological set-up of the
> Eurasian land mass had been different (with impassable mountains
> across Poland, for example), the Aztecs might have beaten Spain... and
> single events can change history. what if Lenin had tripped and broken
> his neck in 1916?
>
> anyway, the "efficiency" (internal solidity) of a social structures
> varies during the historical development. The Roman Empire started out
> as a lean fighting machine but became decadent.
> --
> Jim Devine / "The price one pays for pursuing any profession or
> calling is an intimate knowledge of its ugly side." -- James Baldwin

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