"What interests me is that Levitt and a bunch of other economists
failed to recognize the paper as satire. I am fairly certain that
almost anyone from outside the economics profession would have taken
it as a joke."

I've seen an example of this here... quite recently.
Just replace the word 'paper' with 'thread' & add '9/11 conspiracy'

Stir thoroughly , don't shake, and you have satire, until the
moderator posts: "Please stop this thread."
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On 8/28/07, ravi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://math.bu.edu/people/nk/rr/
>
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>
> Debunking the Conventional Wisdom about the Science Wars, Especially
> the Sokal Affair and its Aftermath
> == Gabriel Stolzenberg
>
> In essays posted at this site, I use close readings of the science
> wars literature to debunk the conventional wisdom about them,
> especially about the Sokal affair and its aftermath. In doing this, I
> try to adhere to standards of rigor comparable to those of my
> profession, mathematics. I look forward to all criticism that is made
> in the same spirit.
>
> ---------
>
> "It Makes Me Laugh" Is Not an Argument
>
> [The Social Text] article is structured around the silliest
> quotations I could find about mathematics and physics (and the
> philosophy of mathematics and physics) from some of the most
> prominent French and American intellectuals. (Sokal, A House Built on
> Sand: 11)
>
> But is it the quotations that are silly or Sokal's readings of them?
> How can we tell? Many reasonable statements admit ludicrous
> misreadings. We need arguments. But Sokal doesn't offer any. Indeed,
> he seems oblivious to the need for them.3 He continues:
>
> Now, what precisely do I mean by "silliness"? …First of all, one has
> meaningless or absurd statements, name-dropping, and the display of
> false erudition. (11)
>
> This is a good definition or at least the beginning of one. But
> having given it, Sokal promptly launches into his own display of name-
> dropping, false erudition and absurd statements! This runs from the
> top of page 12 through "OK, enough for examples of nonsense" on page
> 13. I quote some fragments of it below. The name-dropping is evident.
> 4 That there is also false erudition and absurd statements will be
> demonstrated below.5 Sokal writes (12):
>
> Here, for instance, are Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari holding
> forth on chaos theory….6
>
> And there's much more—Jacques Lacan and Luce Irigaray on differential
> topology…7
>
> —but don't let me not spoil the fun.8
>
> …[Latour] claims that relativity cannot deal with the transformation
> laws between two frames of reference but needs at least three.9
>
> I will spoil the fun. Sokal commits at least four significant mistakes.
>
> Deleuze and Guattari: Chaos theory? As Sokal now knows, contrary to
> his jeering, "Here, for instance, are Gilles Deleuze and Felix
> Guattari holding forth on chaos theory," the authors are not talking
> about chaos theory. Talk about false erudition.10 So far as I know,
> Sokal has not publicly acknowledged this blunder. However, in 1997,
> in a lecture following one by Sokal, Arkady Plotnitsky pointed out
> that, not only is the passage in question not about chaos theory, it
> doesn't even look as if it is. Moreover, in 1998, in Fashionable
> Nonsense (156), Sokal and Jean Bricmont themselves take pains to make
> clear that it is not about chaos theory.11 But they did not tell
> their readers that this contradicts Sokal's jeering remark in A House
> Built on Sand.
>
> Lacan: Differential topology? Differential topology is sophisticated
> mathematics. There is nothing in the passage that Sokal describes as
> "Lacan on differential topology" that requires any knowledge of it.
> Nor does Lacan pretend otherwise. But by describing the passage as
> "Lacan on differential topology," he encourages his readers to
> suppose falsely that, in it, Lacan pretends to know sophisticated
> mathematics. Here is the passage in question.
>
> This diagram [the Möbius strip] can be considered the basis of a sort
> of essential inscription at the origin, in the knot which constitutes
> the subject. This goes much further than you may think at first,
> because you can search for the sort of surface able to receive such
> inscriptions. You can perhaps see that the sphere, that old symbol
> for totality, is unsuitable. A torus, a Klein bottle, a cross-cut
> surface, are able to receive such a cut. And this diversity is very
> important as it explains many things about the structure of mental
> disease. If one can symbolize the subject by this fundamental cut, in
> the same way one can show that a cut on a torus corresponds to the
> neurotic subject, and on a cross-cut surface to another sort of
> mental disease.
>
> Although this can be formulated in terms of differential topology, it
> requires nothing nearly so sophisticated. It is mathematics for an
> eager amateur, the sort of thing one can find in a popular book.
> Furthermore, on Sokal's view of Lacan, if he was pretending to use
> something as fancy as differential topology, he would have been sure
> to let us know. As for the quote itself, unlike Sokal, I realize that
> I do not understand it nearly well enough to judge it. However, I can
> say this. Besides the Möbius strip, the three surfaces that interest
> Lacan arise from the three different ways of 'gluing' the opposite
> edges of a rectangle, depending on whether orientations are preserved
> or reversed. His evident familiarity with this and the distinction he
> notes between such surfaces and a sphere (one cannot draw a knot on a
> sphere) suggests a better command of the mathematics than I expected
> him to possess.
>
>
> Irigaray: Borders of fuzzy sets. Here is the remark of Irigaray to
> which Sokal is referring when says, "And there's much more—Jacques
> Lacan and Luce Irigaray on differential topology—but don't let me not
> spoil the fun."
>
> The mathematical sciences, in the theory of sets, concern themselves
> with closed and open spaces… They concern themselves very little with
> the question of the partially open, with sets that are not clearly
> delineated [ensembles flous], with any analysis of the problem of
> borders [bords]… 12 (Irigaray)
>
> There is nothing here about differential topology. Indeed, on my
> reading, Irigaray is not talking about any kind of topology except to
> note correctly that little if any of it promises to be of much use in
> studying the problem of borders for sets that are not clearly
> delineated, i.e., for fuzzy sets or vague predicates. If Sokal finds
> this a hoot, he probably missed the obvious connection between "the
> problem of borders" and "sets that are not clearly delineated." The
> following statement in Fashionable Nonsense (120-121) strongly
> suggests that he did.
>
> For what it's worth, the "problem" of boundaries [bords], far from
> being neglected, has been at the center of algebraic topology since
> its inception a century ago, and "manifolds with boundary" [variétés
> a bord] have been actively studied in differential geometry for at
> least fifty years. 13 (Sokal and Bricmont)
>
> As a reply to Irigaray, this is risible. What do the boundaries
> [bords] of algebraic topology have to do with the problem of borders
> [bords] for vague predicates, e.g., for color names? In a novel I
> just read, Milan Kundera says about one of the characters:
>
> He knew there existed a border beyond which murder is no longer
> murder but heroism, and that he would never be able to recognize just
> where that border lay. (Immortality, 105)14
>
> Is Sokal suggesting that with the aid of algebraic topology, with its
> great theorems about cycles and boundaries, Kundera's character might
> after all be able to recognize just where that border lay?15 I am
> sure he is not and that the reason it seems otherwise is that he has
> failed to consider the relevance of Irigaray's mention of fuzzy sets
> for understanding what kind of borders she is talking about.16
> Indeed, it is precisely the fuzziness of a fuzzy set—the vagueness of
> a vague predicate—that makes its border problematic.
>
> Latour: Frames are not enough. Finally, contrary to what Sokal would
> have us believe, in the quote below, Latour does not say that
> relativity "cannot deal with" the transformation laws between two
> frames of reference but "needs at least three."
>
> If there are only one, or even two, frames of reference, no solution
> can be found…. Einstein's solution is to consider three actors: one
> in the train, one on the embankment and a third one, the author
> [enunciator] or one of its representants, who tries to superimpose
> the coded observations sent back by the two others.17
>
> The first sentence mentions two frames but says nothing about
> transformation laws or a need for a third frame. The second sentence
> has nothing about relativity theory not being able to deal with the
> transformation laws between two frames or needing a third frame. How
> then did Sokal 'find' these two assertions in Latour's remark? For
> the one about the transformation laws, see "Reading Latour reading
> Einstein" just below. As for the claim that Latour says we need a
> third frame, he does say that we need a third actor. Determined to
> make it be a frame, Sokal assumes that Latour doesn't understand the
> difference between an actor and a frame of reference! Isn't this
> convenient? For a more thorough discussion, see "Reading Latour
> reading Einstein" below and "I am not a reference frame" in "Reading
> and relativism"
>
> <...>
>
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>
>         --ravi
>

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