J Devine wrote: I'm not sure that agriculture is less petro-intensive... John G remarx: Thanks for your thoughtful reply. You misconstrued part of what I was posing (probably owing to my lack of clarity). I was taking the claims of the end of hydrocarbon zealots to their logical conclusion, forecasting that agricultural production would become much less dependent on synthetic oil and methane derivatives, and much more labor-intensive... and wondering if steady-state agriculture (among other activities) would be the death knell of K'ism. John G. Akitacity Tokohu JP 010-1211 _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007