Jim Devine wrote:

> Sure, I'm going to vote for whomever the Dems choose, to prevent the
> current version of Bush from being elected. But I know that the vote
> is wasted. It's totally "harmless to the corporations." (Besides, as
> the anarchists say, if voting could change the system it would be
> illegal.)

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> Voting is a futile act. We have to find those acts that aren't futile.

The average influence of one individual vote is infinitesimally small,
negligible.  But it doesn't follow from it that the aggregate
influence of voting is negligible.  So, in this sense, the argument
that "voting is a futile act" is fallacious -- as in fallacy of
composition.

Dan Scanlan wrote:

> Both Clinton and Obama are corporate functionaries. Clinton's job is to
> corral the votes of those who seek equality of the sexes. Obama's job
> is to corral the votes of those who seek racial justice.

We need to stop thinking of regular working people as cattle.  Whether
Clinton or Obama, or those who write for them the big checks, think of
people as cattle to be corralled, doesn't entail that people will
simply accepted the corralling.  When one thinks of the working people
as conscious agents of history (even if their current actions don't
measure up to the high expectations of some leftists), the whole
picture changes.

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