On Oct 02, 2001 at 03:36 -0600, Chris Fedde took the soap box and proclaimed:
: On Tue, 02 Oct 2001 17:02:24 -0400  _brian_d_foy wrote:
:  +------------------
:  | In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
:  | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Casey West) wrote:
:  | 
:  | > Copyright should go to YAS or Larry, whom ever will accept it.
:  | 
:  | why should copyright go anywhere?  my original point was that
:  | copyright should not be asserted by those don't have it, even
:  | accidently.  Tom or Nat or anyone else should be able to publish
:  | and profit from their contributions if they choose to do so.  books
:  | like the Camel or the Ram would be extremely difficult to write if
:  | every time an author wrote some documentation they instantly lost
:  | rights to their own work.
:  | 
:  | giving away rights isn't the solution, it's the problem.
:  | 
:  | the only issue is the form of the notice of copyright.  :)
:  +------------------
: 
: The FAQ needs some copyright statement.
: 
:     Copyright (c) 1985-1997 Tom Christiansen.
:     Copyright (c) 1997-2001 Tom Christiansen and Nathan Torkington.
:     Copyright (c) 2001 Perl Documentation Project and its contributors.
: 
: But s/Perl Documentation Project/Yet Another Society/ might be reasonable.
: Maybe we need some legal advice about this.  Is this something we could ask
: the O'Reilly editors about?

The problem here is that the PDP isn't a true entity, it's an idea
inside my head that has been let out to the masses.  If you're willing
to pass all FAQ copyright on to me (or, my head), fine.  I'll even go
to the trouble of including it in my will.  Should I die or become
incapacitated, or unable to think with clue, procedure X will happen
and copyright will be transfered to some other Thing.

While I'm comfortable with that approach, I'm sure most of you are
not.  In this light, YAS is a real entity, it is not Kevin Lenzo with
a new name and financial status.  YAS can add copyright rights and how
they should handle them into a charter that must be upheld, my head
can't.

Perhaps my favorite plan is to discontinue the FAQ copyright all
together.  They are no different than any other standard document in
terms of content.  Stop updating them.

In the wake of all this bicker I'd like to ask a question that, in my
opinion, is much more important: where are all the patches?  (Please
note that I am aware and greatful for the folks who have been changing
things.)

I don't think I've seen a situation, till now, where copyright was
more important than just changing things that need changing.

This thread should continue, but so should the patching.  :-)

  Casey West

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